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It would appear that those results include on of the shipping prices options from the tender ofer( how did they decide which one to pick?)

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When I look at the list Scooter posted of BASE and SEBASE companies it seams pretty clear to me that there are a lot of silviculture firms breaking the rules. Some of them are know to be shifty, some are well established operations. More enforcement might help level the playing field as a lot of hos...

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It should be noted that of the companies bidding only A&G, Celtic and Evergreen have done that job in the last 15 years. The ground is not just older and brushy, but has a lot more rock than the previous year. This will be a very tough job at that price.

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a very similar app would be Theodolite for ios. I have been using it to take tree heights in surveying. very accurate and at around $2 its $198 cheaper than a clino.

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how big will my next joint be? and who is watching me right now?

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the total amount of trees for the Williams lake job in Scooters last post is 1 0398 577. this gives Dynamic a whopping $0.259 per tree! planters beware. Simply unbelievable.

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Horses and mules have been used on occasion, so why not Llamas?

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I don't think any of those seeding machines are in Canada, it's a Swedish thing they have been trying to sell here for a while now, and I don't think it has caught on because of the terrain here. As for dragging, it is a very site specific treatment, so the main reason there would be more dragging i...

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It might be interesting to some people that although this contract has been tendered with an option to renew, the last several winners have either chosen not to renew or not been given the option.

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So how do they survive? Do they just not pay the planters? Dump trees? What if the difference in the bids is the owner forgoing a massive profit margin on the operation? Clearly the company is at least functional and profitable, however high or low their planting quality. If you know much about tre...

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shawniganlaker wrote:
mcD wrote:$104,497 !

WTF
^^Right...WTF, thats 35% off the next bid, someone forgot the Heli, the Fert oh and what about the Fill plants ? Dirty Dirty Bird

I think they remembered the Heli, the fert and the fills. I think they forgot the wages, but if you forget to pay people that isn't a problem right?

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$104,497 !

WTF

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SNAP could do the trick, but the cost is VERY prohibitive.

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there is an app and associated Database called PlanWizard. It does not involve planters though, only Supervisors/Clients/nurseries. I though about some kind of a tally sheet app that planters could sync, but there are a lot of problems as it is with Data entry and getting tallies on time is a huge p...

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I think this really depends on what kind of job you are looking for. Talk about planting from a hard work self motivating point of view. Do you have management experience? Its pretty easy to get a management job in planting if you really want one. This is probably the most easily transferable experi...

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good cooks at good companies will make $300 or more.

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I know that the old guy in the bottom picture never planted at Spectrum.

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I completed a carpentry apprenticeship through ei. You actually can collect EI the whole time you are in trade school, no matter who you are, but there is also some funding available to get you through an entry level program if you have no previous experience. You need to do a bit of work to show ho...

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Question "what will you count as an acceptable natural in this fill plant?"

Forester "You know, good ones" (what, are you fukin stupid?)

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Most Contractors do not consider consecutive years of seasonal service to apply, and will pay %4, even if the employee has worked for them for 10 seasons. I'm pretty sure that this practice is above board as someone who is not employed by you for 6-8 months is not really working consecutive years.

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its not a line plant, so you don't have to wait around. you just have to be aware of 4-5 other people in your piece. Once you get good at it it isn't that big of a deal. there can also be a lot of situations on the coast where it is simply not feasible to cut everyone there own piece. this isn't an ...

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Probably at high density too.......

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it has to be pretty damn hard ground before I am happy planting lower density, but it does occur.

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I tend to agree. When trees are tendered on the open market you bid the access that you find, and negotiate changes if they occur. The major issue with road deactivation often occurs with Direct award clients where there is no bid and you are often just expected to make due.

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I think those are the results for last fall

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your looking at the wrong job, for sure.

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120,000 trees
24,000 3'cones
roughly 30,000 of the trees being 512(3000 @ 615)

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bidders in no particular order were: A + G Reforestation LTD AKD Reforestation LTD Blue Collar Silviculture LTD Celtic Reforestation Services LTD Evergreen Forest Services LTD Folklore Contracting LTD Next Generation Reforestation LTD Seneca Enterprises LTD dollars amounts were: $920,225.64 $813,273...

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The price may be the same, but BCTS would probably have tried to negotiate for less if in their opinion the ground was less challenging

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they were unable to negotiate the prices they wanted. There was likely more ground this season that BCTS deemed to be "easier" and Timberline disagreed. when the ground changes on a multi year deal it can sometimes be hard to negotiate pricing the way you would like.

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BCTS East Kootenay

784800 trees

1. Zanzibar $316356 $.403
2. Brinkman $329053 $.419
3. A&G $347342 $.442
4. Next Gen $364147 $.464

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Yes, publicly and privately ordered, but there is no way to find out what percentage of those privately ordered trees are direct award vs. tendered.

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That estimate would not really even be close as there are many millions of trees tendered out privately every year, probably more than what is tendered privately.

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I guess it doesn't have much to do with NGR, but you will find dayrate foreman at all of the best companies out there.

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Has anyone heard anything about the Kootenay/Arrow bid? has it opened yet?

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Wow, NGR has only left $270,000 on the table over three bids in Williams Lake!

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Defiantly the mechanical issue. They require a LOT of maintenance. Sometimes nothing else will work though

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Who are these guys? What's the word from planters?

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As well, Merritt and Kamloops should be incuded in your Southern Data set

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Scooter, while your theory makes sense and I have thought the same thing sometimes, something else to think about is that near the end of the bidding season companies that haven't got enough work yet are going to start putting in some silly prices to make sure they get SOMETHING. I either viewed or ...

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Or this

http://www.for.gov.bc.ca/ftp/tka/extern ... g%2015.pdf

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how about this?

http://www.for.gov.bc.ca/ftp/tsg/extern ... 202013.pdf

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Did Osprey finally get burned last year? There bids a pretty high on these planting jobs as well as a brushing job in Campbell River.

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I heard a rumor today that an entire Folklore camp was evacuated because of a forestfire, and are not able even to get to the reefer storing their trees, any truth to this?

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are you confusing FTG with FFT ?

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Roundup(glyphosate) is not 24d. very different stuff

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I believe the answers to your questions are no and yes. unless it is being tendered to a list of prequalified contractors

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I have often bolted it on just like all the other bits and pieces on a set of bags

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I have had this confirmed by many former Osprey planters. Foresters are a lot less likely to suspect anything on heli and boat jobs.

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