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Coaster

Solid well managed company, very experienced, very honest. They've been around for decades in the southern interior. You could do a lot worse.

Coaster

Oui - je pense Quebec est magnifique!

Coaster

I don't know what cloud you're floating above Scooter. To suggest that the coast is better than the interior is proof of a tendency towards masochism. Sure it's early work, but as I sit here waiting for the snow to melt I wonder once again what I'm doing here. I suppose it must be the thrill of risk...

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Talk about a tempest in a teapot. What earthly difference does it make if you get 10.4 cents plus .6 cents or just plain 11 cents. It's the same thing for Pete's sake! You have to be pretty naive to think that a company is paying out more than they planned to if they add vacation pay to the quoted ...

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The single most impressive quality I've seen in the fastest planters I've known is total focus. Some hi ballers grunt and pound their way to big numbers, others use more finesse and technique. What they all seem to have in common is unwavering concentration and focus on each tree. They are single mi...

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In regards to 14 hour days, who drives their planters to do that? I've seen a lot of talk here about average wages per day. Perhaps it would make more sense to talk about hourly wages? Where I work we rarely ever go over 10 hours including travel time and usually spend no more than 8 hours on the bl...

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Seneca is doing the Clearwater job at 43.5 cents
Timberline is doing Arrow at 41.0
Coast Range is doing Okanagan 042 at 36.4

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The longer season would serve some well. The best planters would get to work longer seasons - or would they? Wouldn't bids get even more competetive with extended seasons as companies could hope to do longer and therefore bigger volume seasons. Wouldn't the low ballers and volume grabbers be the one...

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Isn't Dirk married to Joyce somebody? I think she's a politician who actually had a BC cabinet portfolio at one time - perhaps around the time this "subsidy" happened.

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bush wrote:coaster, does it get confusing trying to decide whether you post under the name evergreen or coaster?

I don't know whether to take that as an insult or a compliment.

You've been in the bush too long.

Coaster

Here is a summary in one place of all bid results from this threa so far for 2012; GOV. WHERE $$$$$$$$$$ TREES BID LEFT BCTS VANDERHOOF 1,022,000 SUMMIT $205,237 $0.201 $49,347 APEX $254,584 NGR $256,852 WINDFIRM$263,569 RHINO $265,313 FOLKLORE$280,363 DYNAMIC $286,786 AKD $314,949 ARTISAN $315,653 ...

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Here's to Bdawg for posting some analysis of the 2012 public bids. Both Scooter and I had promised to do this so thanks! I am in the process of trying to make sense of all of the numbers. I think comparing them to 2011 will yield perhaps the most interesting results. I'm about 1/2 way to having that...

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BCTS - Campbell River - 265,000 trees + 10,000 cones

$113,084 Osprey
$113,720 Evergreen
$128,960 Fieldstone
$138,933 Brinkman
$167,480 Zanzibar
$172,850 Timberline
$180,380 Stephan

It's impossible to determine the per tree bid price on this one as there are cones and fert in the picture.

Coaster

What earthly difference does it make if you get 10.4 cents plus .6 cents or just plain 11 cents. It's the same thing for Pete's sake! You have to be pretty naive to think that a company is paying out more than they planned to if they add vacation pay to the quoted price. I for one do not want to he...

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Workers can vote with their feet Let's not continue to pretend that this is anything but an extremely difficult thing for many planters to do. Sure it's tough to walk away from work but if you don't you're part of the problem. It was also suggested that "contractors can do the same by sticking...

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aaron wrote:by the way what are the labour laws concerning camp setup and pay?

Employers are required to pay you for any and all work you do. That includes setting up camp, loading trees, cleaning trucks, shopping for food, etc.

Coaster

Talk about a tempest in a teapot. What earthly difference does it make if you get 10.4 cents plus .6 cents or just plain 11 cents. It's the same thing for Pete's sake! You have to be pretty naive to think that a company is paying out more than they planned to if they add vacation pay to the quoted p...

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Better Late than Never - here are some results that have just come to my attention - they aren't recent openings but pertain to 2012 work - they were just buried a little deeper than usual; FFT Vanderhoof Bid on 1,184,138 spring seedlings Planting 866,000 seedlings 20-30% Heli/remote quad access Awa...

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Scooter, you are refreshingly naive when it comes to contractors. I suppose it comes from working for good ones which I assume Folklore is, or at least honest ones anyway. Companies like Coastrange have no issues with knickle and diming planters. $10 here, $75 there, it's like the rich old guy who a...

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Here's a couple of bids we were involved in that I haven't seen up here yet; BCTS - Clearwater 953,471 trees 35.8 - $340979 Celtic 37.0 - $352842 Evergreen 41.7 - $398148 Coast Range 43.5 - $414389 Seneca 44.0 - $419601 Folklore 54.3 - $518125 Leader This job has been awarded to #4 Seneca... Just c...

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Pretty amazing that Coastrange shares their season schedule like that! Fluffer must be a puffer to think that putting those kind of prices out here would serve any other purpose than to arouse general scorn. I have worked Nakusp on many occasions and 20 cents for no prep is much more like it. I've a...

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Very few rookies get to work on the coast. Coast Range may be an exception in that they may have to employ rookies to get their low bid work done. Either that or they'll bring the Ontario planters in. Coast Range was always a negative force on the coast and it's disappointing to see them back. From ...

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Zanzibar, Fieldstone, Evergreen, & Timberline all work the B.C. coast and interior and have 2 to 4 crews depending on the year. A&G and Greenpeaks work interior only and have 2-3 crews. Osprey still manages to keep a couple of crews going on the coast as does Rainforest. My apologies to Rain...

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I have revised info on the Arrow job. Not a big change, but still worth noting. 1,223,070 trees. 43.6 - $532,371 Next Generation 43.6 - $532,888 Timberline 45.7 - $558,451 Evergreen 48.4 - $592,339 Greenpeaks 54.3 - $664,110 Fieldstone With this job there is day-rate planting that doesn't show in t...

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As far as prices are concerned I have a good feeling regarding the coast. What I have a bad feeling about is La Nina. That frigid weather wench is likely to bring snow and delays. If you're working from home it's not so bad but when you're hanging at the motel, it gets old fast....and expensive too....

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Ah yes the Brinkman Empire. May the farce be with you. As the name indicates it''s always been about the man at the top, Dirk himself. Surrounded by neophytes he has built the greatest personality cult tree planting has ever known. It's a particularly self posessed forester that can withstand Dirk's...

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We haven't seen any public coast planting tenders open yet for 2012. In fact only one job has been advertised so far. The group bidding on the coast is much smaller than in the interior. Although the volume is less, I think relatively there's less competition. If you look at what happened last fall,...

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Coaster, do you know when these trees are being planted? This work would usually start around May 1st although in a light snow year perhaps some in late April. The elevations are bound to be varied enough that it will last into late June. You usually have to start with a smaller crew and build up a...

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BCTS - Arrow PL13TFG001 1.3 million trees 40.9 - $532,371 Next Generation 41.0 - $532,888 Timberline 43.0 - $558,451 Evergreen 45.6 - $592,339 Greenpeaks 51.1 - $664,110 Fieldstone That is as close as it gets! Strangely enough all of these companies are based in the area except for Next Generation. ...

Coaster

I'm wondering if anyone has information or the bid results for the following three BCTS jobs that opened back on November 1st. I can't find results anywhere. PL13TJFOO2 Vanderhoof 1,762,000 trees PL13TJF003 Vanderhoof 2,063,000 trees PL13TJF004 Fort St. James 368,000 trees Other bids I can't find re...

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The second BCTS contract in Merritt has a significant amount of fill trees in both Lillooet and Princeton that were described by the forester as being quite nasty (steep, with long drives and 1 block was even brushed this year in order to be planted in the Spring) There is another set of blocks acc...

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Upwards revisions would tend to mean one of two things. You've made a mistake or things have changed in the market since you put your bid in. Both Evergreen and Folklore scored large contracts just days before the Merritt bid opened. Since you can't fax or email government bids, their Merritt bids w...

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BCTS Merritt
PL13TEF002
802,557 trees

26.8 - $215,700 Coast Strange
32.7 - $262,549 What's Dewan
34.9 - $280,382 Akehurst & Giltrap
35.7 - $286,648 Zanzibar
37.3 - $299,392 Raven
37.6 - $301,853 Evergreen
39.4 - $316,549 Celtic
40.5 - $325,436 Folklore

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BCTS - East Kootenays PL113TFH001 Guessing at 1,100,000 trees 38.8 - $422,038 Next Generation 41.7 - $458,173 Zanzibar 42.8 - $471,157 Brinkman 43.1 - $473,687 Coast Range BCTS - Boundary PL13TFF001 1,600,000 38.7 - $616,779 Evergreen 42.8 - $681,693 Akehurst & Giltrap 43.0 - $684,527 Fieldstone...

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kootenaywrx wrote: "Looks a bit tight for the area?" This one's near and dear as it's my home turf. Fieldstone's bid is slightly higher than what Evergreen did it for in 2011. But looking at the grouping of the three higher bids, you'd have to think that 39 cents is what it should have go...

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BCTS Kootenay Lake
861,700 trees
Bid deposit was 10% of bid amount

36.0 - $310,561 Fieldstone
39.0 - $335,729 Evergreen
39.4 - $339,840 Zanzibar
39.6 - $341,080 Akehurst & Giltrap

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BCTS - Vernon - Spring 2012 North Trees: 836,140 PL12TKJ042 $$$ Cents 1 Rhino 300300 $0.359 2 Timberline 300606 $0.360 3 Seneca 304197 $0.364 4 Coast Range 304654 $0.364 5 Zanzibar 332619 $0.398 6 Evergreen 332763 $0.398 7 Folklore 357107 $0.427 8 Next Gen 384624 $0.460 I was inspired by Scooter's ...

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It's important to remember that we're only seeing the public bid results and not even all of them. The bid results we'll see via Replant.ca will account for around 30-40 million trees for the interior of B.C. if we get results on most of what's been advertised. There's double that for the spring thr...

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The staff planter at the end is planting fertilizer T-Bags in separate holes next to the seedling. That's the second move your seeing. His technique looks pretty good to me.

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There has been an option for BCTS to impose bid deposits for a long time now. In the past wisdom was that it would not serve any positive purpose and that in fact would lead companies to accept work that they really ought not to. Why this changed is anyone's guess. Prior to 2010 bid deposits were de...

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BCTS has shown time and time again that they have little or no consideration for the planter. They have turned a blind eye over the years to numerous offenses against workers. They refused for many years to police contractors who were obviously providing substandard camps. It took the Khaira fiasco ...

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Jamis - in response to your question about whether a contractor can be disqualified from bidding if they drop a contract that they are the low bidder on - or for that matter if they drop a contract that has moved up the list to them. Below is a direct quote from the Conditions of Tender document tha...

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Houston, contract PL13TAH001 Approx. 2.3 million trees as per ad on BC Bid Cents per tree added 01. 22.6 - $520,166 - Dynamic 02. 24.4 - $562,116 - Windfirm 03. 25.1 - $576,196 - Next Generation Reforestation 04. 25.3 - $581,754 - Elf 05. 26.7 - $613,203 - Apex 06. 28.1 - $645,323 - Summit 07. 28.2 ...

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MOF Prince George, contract PL13TGC003. - cents per tree added

2,702,209 trees

1. 26.5 - $0,717,159 - Spectrum
2. 30.3 - $0,818,454 - Coast Range
3. 32.4 - $0,876,079 - Celtic
4. 32.6 - $0,881,898 - Seneca
5. 33.2 - $0,896,535 - Elf
6. 35.3 - $0,955,439 - Folklore
7. 45.7 - $1,235,937 - Apex

Coaster

BCTS is doing everything they can to ensure that low bid contractors have a more difficult time dropping jobs where they have obvious low bids. In most tenders now there are bid deposits of $5,000-$10,000 or more. This is a serious disincentive to contractors dropping low bid jobs. If the contractor...

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Really confusing. I doubt that Dynamic expected that they were being overly aggressive either. They probably weren't confident about placing near the winning bid at 28.0 cents, and almost certainly didn't expect to be almost five cents per tree under the next bidder. Very similar to the MOF PG bid ...

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Here's the latest in the continuing saga of Khaira - hot off the presses today. Treeplanting contractor charged with fraud, to appear in Provincial Court November 2nd (Vancouver) November 1, 2011. Crown counsel have laid four charges under the Criminal Code against Khalid Bajwa, owner of Khaira Ente...

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McKenzie - Spring & Summer 2012 Planting Bids PL13TGE001 2,057,760 trees Dynamic $593,586 - 28.8 cents Spectrum $698,650 - 34.0 Apex $723,914 - 35.2 Celtic $729,583 - 35.5 Folklore $801,277 - 38.9 Once again only 5 bidders. Another $105,000 left on the table! That seems to be a popular number. I...

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It's the system of government taking the lowest bid that sets the stage for nervous contractors to make these mistakes with panic bids. Prior to the Prince George opening, Foklore had been striking out, placing just out of the running. I think they freaked out a bit, lost their nerve and threw in a ...

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BCTS - Prince George
PL13TGC002

2,385,435 Trees

Folklore $668,034 - 28.0 cents
E.L.F. $773,137 - 32.4
Seneca $797,986 - 33.5
Celtic $817,332 - 34.3
Apex $1,114,513 - 46.7

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