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by Rainman
Tue Jan 24, 2017 2:32 pm
Forum: Public Bid Results
Topic: 2017 Public Bid Results
Replies: 139
Views: 86614

Re: 2017 Public Bid Results

Great job Scooter! Though it must be taken in proper context, this info is a powerful summary of the public tenders. You are truly a shining star of the planting community and are inspirational. My feeling is that people should spend less time on facebook and more time here, the best forum in the in...
by Rainman
Fri Jan 08, 2016 9:38 pm
Forum: Public Bid Results
Topic: 2016 Public Bid Results
Replies: 91
Views: 72072

Re: 2016 Public Bid Results

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by Rainman
Sun Jan 03, 2016 7:20 pm
Forum: Questions & Answers about Tree Planting
Topic: looking for Spring coastal work
Replies: 39
Views: 27183

Re: looking for Spring coastal work

I heard an entire Osprey crew got fired this year, not quit.
Interesting. The planter's rumor mill isn't exactly a reputable source for info.

It would be interesting to hear more of what happened.
by Rainman
Wed Dec 09, 2015 5:47 pm
Forum: Questions & Answers about Tree Planting
Topic: looking for Spring coastal work
Replies: 39
Views: 27183

Re: looking for Spring coastal work

I just heard of a whole Osprey crew that quit at once last year. Haven't seen any stupid bids from them this year.

Like I said earlier the planters hold more bargaining chips than they realize.
by Rainman
Wed Dec 09, 2015 1:27 pm
Forum: Questions & Answers about Tree Planting
Topic: looking for Spring coastal work
Replies: 39
Views: 27183

Re: looking for Spring coastal work

No Scooter it can't happen... Sorry! I think it could happen quite quickly if experienced planters refused to work for sub-par wages, especially on the tougher jobs. Good planters hold more bargaining power than they realize. The easy jobs (drive to on the island) may be tougher to make come around...
by Rainman
Fri Jun 26, 2015 9:54 pm
Forum: Around The Campfire
Topic: Heavy Tree Boxes
Replies: 13
Views: 10391

Re: Heavy Tree Boxes

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by Rainman
Mon Apr 06, 2015 5:53 am
Forum: Around The Campfire
Topic: Cones/Tree Protecty Things
Replies: 21
Views: 7508

Re: Cones/Tree Protecty Things

At 82 cents, the best thing to do is quit.
by Rainman
Thu Oct 23, 2014 6:36 pm
Forum: Public Bid Results
Topic: 2015 Public Bid Results
Replies: 118
Views: 164263

Re: 2015 Public Bid Results

PL16TGC001 Spring Planting -Prince George 1)Apex Reforestation Ltd. $1,148,708.49 2)Next Generation Reforestation Ltd. $735,503.01 3)Coast Range Contracting Ltd. $835,960.99 4)Dynamic Reforestation Ltd. $939,928.94 5)Celtic Reforestation Services Ltd. $843,593.18 6)Seneca Enterprises Ltd. $826,014.1...
by Rainman
Wed Jul 09, 2014 9:04 pm
Forum: Around The Campfire
Topic: Recourse after termination from a planting company
Replies: 9
Views: 3070

Re: 2 planters fired brutaly

For a "professional" opinion on whether you have a case or not, and whether there is any avenue for compensation, you should inquire through the government agency that deals with this... http://www.labour.gov.bc.ca/esb/complaint.htm People here can encourage or discourage you and only add ...
by Rainman
Fri Feb 14, 2014 2:20 pm
Forum: These Boots Were Made For Walkin'
Topic: Boots - interior BC
Replies: 7
Views: 8294

Re: Boots - interior BC

One of the greatest planters I have ever known wore the combat boots the previous poster mentions. He got the soles caulked and kept 2 pairs to use in rotation during wet times on the coast. He swore by them for the last many years we worked together. If the combat boots stood up to his punishment t...
by Rainman
Thu Oct 10, 2013 12:40 pm
Forum: Around The Campfire
Topic: Random poll for coastal planters: slash vs hills?
Replies: 10
Views: 4994

Re: Random poll for coastal planters: slash vs hills?

Hey newb,

Like your photos. I hope you don't mind if I tweaked your one photo that lacked proper white/black levels as well as contrast.

Cheers
by Rainman
Wed Aug 07, 2013 12:46 pm
Forum: Public Bid Results
Topic: 2013 Public Bid Results
Replies: 195
Views: 203847

Re: 2013 Public Bid Results

http://www.for.gov.bc.ca/ftp/TSG/external/!publish/Contract_Tender/ResultsApril2013toMarch2014/REVISED%20PL14TCD032%20Tree%20Planting,%20Port%20Alberni,%20August%206,%202013.pdf "The proposed contract is to plant 11 different sites consisting of approximately 203.2 ha with approximately 266,86...
by Rainman
Thu Feb 21, 2013 11:47 am
Forum: Public Bid Results
Topic: 2013 Public Bid Results
Replies: 195
Views: 203847

Re: 2013 Public Bid Results

From Evergreen in 2011... $225 a day is nothing to be proud of that's for sure although we generally don't get a much higher average overall for a full season. It definitely depends on the crew and where you're working. The coast has sucked for the large part over the last few years and that has kep...
by Rainman
Tue Feb 19, 2013 6:01 pm
Forum: Companies in the Silviculture Industry
Topic: Spectrum Resource Group
Replies: 49
Views: 31514

Re: Spectrum Resource Group

Well everyone's got to start somewhere. I started with probably one of the worst companies in the history of Canadian tree planting. I liked the job and worked my way into a better company eventually. After over 20 years, I still enjoy tree planting. Wherever you end up, just be aware of what your r...
by Rainman
Fri Feb 15, 2013 12:05 pm
Forum: Public Bid Results
Topic: 2013 Public Bid Results
Replies: 195
Views: 203847

Re: 2013 Public Bid Results

BCTS South Island The proposed contract is to plant 15 different sites consisting of approximately 303 ha with approximately 424,200 seedlings. The location of each planting site is shown on an overview map, a detailed location map, and a SP map included in the tender package. The proposed contract ...
by Rainman
Wed Sep 12, 2012 9:50 am
Forum: Videos, Websites, & Articles Related to Planting & Forestry
Topic: Hardcore Treeplanters
Replies: 59
Views: 44176

Re: Hardcore Treeplanters

Hey Kenax, Why did you steal my photos? You never asked for any kind of permission. When I emailed you, I never got a reply. I do not agree with your usage. Your site is filled with poor information and I do not want to endorse it with my photos. Consider this as a formal request to take down any co...
by Rainman
Sun Sep 02, 2012 10:17 pm
Forum: Questions & Answers about Tree Planting
Topic: Seed companies
Replies: 3
Views: 1999

Re: Seed companies

I would just pick someone who works here: http://www.for.gov.bc.ca/hti/treeseedcentre/index.htm and call them. Chances are that if they can't help you, they can point you in the right direction. I have called them out of the blue before with questions and they were very helpful. You could also try t...
by Rainman
Sat Mar 17, 2012 8:49 pm
Forum: Equipment Used by Planters
Topic: Ideal Shovel Specs
Replies: 22
Views: 10338

Re: Ideal Shovel Specs

I've planted mega thousands of 2 year old White spruce bareroots, back in the 90's. I'd use a Workwizer style shovel if I had to do it again. Workwizer has all sizes of blades and will even make a custom size if you want. I've planted with a lot of different tools when I was in Ontario/Quebec, inclu...
by Rainman
Thu Feb 09, 2012 11:29 am
Forum: Around The Campfire
Topic: Planter Recruitment Program
Replies: 71
Views: 40181

Re: Planter Recruitment Program

A regular person would not know the difference between 10 and 20 cents a tree. I seriously beg to differ. Especially if there were at least a small handful of experienced planters around to set the earnings bar and show the potential. Seriously, even if the show is completely run and planted by roo...
by Rainman
Mon Feb 06, 2012 9:55 pm
Forum: Questions & Answers about Tree Planting
Topic: Motel Show Advice?
Replies: 14
Views: 5529

Re: Motel Show Advice?

Apex will put 4 people in a single room with 2 beds, at 16 bucks camp costs That is just plain wrong! There is a standard. Every company I have ever worked for only put 1 person per bed. 2 guys to a motel room bed (4 per room) is just a cheapo move by a greedy company. I'm used to paying $10-15 a d...
by Rainman
Mon Feb 06, 2012 9:44 pm
Forum: Companies in the Silviculture Industry
Topic: Folklore Contracting
Replies: 84
Views: 57373

Re: Folklore Contracting

As to people complaining about the quality is too tough...excess etc...

I say easing up the specs is not the answer to. The answer is to pay the planter properly to do a good job. Why not just pay properly and enforce the standards? Isn't that the job?
by Rainman
Mon Feb 06, 2012 9:37 pm
Forum: Companies in the Silviculture Industry
Topic: Folklore Contracting
Replies: 84
Views: 57373

Re: Folklore Contracting

Aren't most of the contracts on the coast calling for between 4's and 7's right now?
I'd say that we are mostly doing 4-6's. With 4's and 5's being more common than 6's.
by Rainman
Mon Feb 06, 2012 8:36 pm
Forum: Companies in the Silviculture Industry
Topic: Folklore Contracting
Replies: 84
Views: 57373

Re: Folklore Contracting

jdtesluk wrote:This shifts from (if I remember the coast right) about 3.2 metres for 4s and 2.5 for 8's.
Here's the inter-tree distances. You can see that it is 1.3 meters further for 4's versus 8's.
by Rainman
Mon Jan 30, 2012 5:17 pm
Forum: Companies in the Silviculture Industry
Topic: Next Generation Reforestation (NGR)
Replies: 65
Views: 59360

Re: Next Generation Reforestation (NGR)

I've never heard anything great from the planters I know that have been through there. The overall feedback I have heard was that it was not well organized and pretty low tree prices. Keep in mind, this is from experienced veteran planters who went to NGR to fill up a July, after the "good"...
by Rainman
Thu Jan 26, 2012 3:10 pm
Forum: Around The Campfire
Topic: big dirk
Replies: 19
Views: 8055

Re: big dirk

Here's what I found through Google... http://www.leg.bc.ca/hansard/35th1st/h0331pm2.htm#345 excerpt: L. Fox: Am I given to understand that there's no liability to the province with respect to that 50 percent of the loan that was given by the federal government? Hon. D. Zirnhelt: The answer is no. L....
by Rainman
Sat Jan 21, 2012 2:10 pm
Forum: Around The Campfire
Topic: Workers panel at WSCA workshop- Workers welcome
Replies: 66
Views: 29180

Re: Workers panel at WSCA workshop- Workers welcome

Well Mike, Having this discussion, with your nagging about 1-4 year planters who would never move companies, is pointless. If you stopped to think a bit more, you'd realize there are scores of 1-4 year planters who will go on to plant for many more years and who will eventually want to move on to a ...
by Rainman
Fri Jan 20, 2012 1:20 pm
Forum: Questions & Answers about Tree Planting
Topic: E.I. job search questionnaire
Replies: 8
Views: 13196

Re: E.I. job search questionnaire

Depending on who you get at EI that is checking you out, this could be easy or not. Be prepared. I have been cut off (many years ago), because I did not "pass" their job search test. Understand that they want you to be actively looking for work the whole time you are on EI. To them anythin...
by Rainman
Fri Jan 20, 2012 11:46 am
Forum: Around The Campfire
Topic: Workers panel at WSCA workshop- Workers welcome
Replies: 66
Views: 29180

Re: Workers panel at WSCA workshop- Workers welcome

Mike, you seem to have a full arsenal of excuses. This may be part of what has tainted your vision. Success and reward are for those who seek it and find a way to get it. This goes for planting as well as almost everything else. The truth is there are a lot more people seeking good jobs than there a...
by Rainman
Fri Jan 20, 2012 9:28 am
Forum: Questions & Answers about Tree Planting
Topic: Rookie Phone interview questions
Replies: 8
Views: 9598

Re: Rookie Phone interview questions

There are two reasons to ask questions. As Scooter said, it shows that you put some thought into it. The other reason is to get an idea of what to expect. Things like prices, number of work days, shift length, pay scheme, camp costs are key questions if you haven't already been told the answers. Oth...
by Rainman
Thu Jan 19, 2012 11:58 pm
Forum: Questions & Answers about Tree Planting
Topic: Rookie Phone interview questions
Replies: 8
Views: 9598

Re: Rookie Phone interview questions

Enthusiasm can be good.

Mainly express you want to do a good job, work hard and most importantly, make money. It's also good to ask a few questions as well.
by Rainman
Thu Jan 19, 2012 1:44 pm
Forum: Around The Campfire
Topic: Workers panel at WSCA workshop- Workers welcome
Replies: 66
Views: 29180

Re: Workers panel at WSCA workshop- Workers welcome

As I've said before, the best way to walk out on a crappy job is to have something else lined up before leaving. In this day and age of tree planting, there are a number of resources that can help a planter gather a list of companies to call in their search. I even know that some contractors would c...
by Rainman
Wed Jan 18, 2012 12:54 pm
Forum: Around The Campfire
Topic: Workers panel at WSCA workshop- Workers welcome
Replies: 66
Views: 29180

Re: Workers panel at WSCA workshop- Workers welcome

Thanks Dawg,

I couldn't have said it better myself. Thanks for taking the time to share your views.

Hear that kids (and you complacent vets too)...

...don't work for unfair prices. Organize your camp to put pressure on the situation.
by Rainman
Wed Jan 04, 2012 8:12 pm
Forum: Companies in the Silviculture Industry
Topic: Stephan Contracting
Replies: 37
Views: 20212

Re: Stephan Contracting

It sounds to me like you guys have a good gig and that's the main thing. I wish you all a safe and prosperous 2012 season.
by Rainman
Wed Jan 04, 2012 1:53 pm
Forum: Companies in the Silviculture Industry
Topic: Stephan Contracting
Replies: 37
Views: 20212

Re: Stephan Contracting

Look, I thought the initial review in this thread was quite insightful, and seemed quite fair as it appeared to come from a fair amount of experience. I did not see the "contractor" bias you accuse. As for the business end of things, perhaps you need to look at some examples of companies t...
by Rainman
Wed Jan 04, 2012 12:46 pm
Forum: Companies in the Silviculture Industry
Topic: Stephan Contracting
Replies: 37
Views: 20212

Re: Stephan Contracting

Sorry to tell you dog, you sound like an illiterate ass. Re-read the original post to see where you went wrong. And, to further expose your flawed thinking, it's not the percentage of the bid that workers care about, it's what they make that matters. I don't care if I get paid 90% of the bid, if I'm...
by Rainman
Tue Jan 03, 2012 3:50 pm
Forum: Mechanical Stuff
Topic: Ford vs. Dodge vs. Chevy Trucks for work
Replies: 12
Views: 4699

Re: Ford vs. Dodge vs. Chevy Trucks for work

F-350.

There's a reason why every logging camp I have been to is almost exclusively filled with Fords, durability. In fact, almost every large fleet of crewcabs I have ever seen is Fords.
by Rainman
Tue Jan 03, 2012 12:08 pm
Forum: Equipment Used by Planters
Topic: Hardhat with Headphone Speakers?
Replies: 5
Views: 3255

Re: Hardhat with Headphone Speakers?

I like that catalog too. I usually have that on my laptop wherever I work, along with the catalogs for Commercial Solutions, Ono Trading and IRL.
by Rainman
Thu Dec 29, 2011 12:09 pm
Forum: Questions & Answers about Tree Planting
Topic: Identifying Tree Species
Replies: 36
Views: 32187

Re: Identifying Tree Species

So which firs are actually planted on the Island? Fdc - Coastal Douglas-Fir. Not Fdi which is the interior species. Fdi is planted east from Lillooet, Merritt and Princeton. Fdc is west from Pemberton and Hope. Ba - Amabilis Fir. A true fir. By far the most widely planted true fir on the coast. Bg ...
by Rainman
Mon Dec 19, 2011 2:01 pm
Forum: Companies in the Silviculture Industry
Topic: Osprey (coastal)
Replies: 49
Views: 44139

Re: Osprey (coastal)

Osprey is not a young company. They have been up to no good for as long as I can remember.
by Rainman
Mon Dec 19, 2011 12:40 pm
Forum: Companies in the Silviculture Industry
Topic: Osprey (coastal)
Replies: 49
Views: 44139

Re: Osprey (coastal)

I find it crazy how almost everyone I know is aware of their "ethics" yet they can still somehow convince foresters to give them work.

I wonder how they are going to stash the cones.
by Rainman
Sat Dec 17, 2011 3:58 pm
Forum: Around The Campfire
Topic: Potentially significant impact on industry wages
Replies: 54
Views: 30003

Re: Potentially significant impact on industry wages

And what sort of recourse is there for a vet that tries to educate rookies and gets fired as a result for being a trouble maker? The vet should be happy not to be working for a company that punishes workers for helping one another. If your boss acts like this maybe you should rethink who you work f...
by Rainman
Fri Dec 16, 2011 2:01 pm
Forum: Around The Campfire
Topic: Potentially significant impact on industry wages
Replies: 54
Views: 30003

Re: Potentially significant impact on industry wages

Some lazy planters will get topped up to minimum wage while some work their ass off to actually plant enough trees to make minimum wage... anyone else find this unfair? I find it fair. Minimum wage is the baseline in this country. If a company hires someone, they should at least make this amount. I...
by Rainman
Tue Nov 22, 2011 9:38 am
Forum: Companies in the Silviculture Industry
Topic: Khaira Enterprises
Replies: 330
Views: 592949

Re: Khairi making news - another BCTS success story

I understand where you are coming from Tnalp. Especially if you are paying out of pocket. Unless you are paid extra by the company you are working for, it is a burden on the employee. From a management point of view, it's a hassle too. Paperwork, and more paperwork. But there hasn't been a course th...