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by vacationer
Thu Apr 23, 2009 3:01 pm
Forum: Equipment Used by Planters
Topic: PolyPro Clothing
Replies: 9
Views: 3421

Re: PolyPro Clothing

I bought a hoodie at MEC which was either polypropylene or polyester. Anyway, I IMMEDIATELY stank like sweat while wearing it -- it's a special horrible smell that is only produced by wearing these garments. Washing seems to get it out, but it only comes back even worse five minutes after putting th...
by vacationer
Tue Apr 21, 2009 4:15 pm
Forum: Around The Campfire
Topic: Stephen Harper just gave me 2000$
Replies: 60
Views: 19475

Re: Stephen Harper just gave me 2000$

I could possibly throw out this argument, for the sake of argument:

"I do collect EI, and I'll keep collecting it until someone tells me I can't, because I like being able to to purchase a greater quantity and variety of goods and services than I can afford with my paycheques alone."
by vacationer
Sun Apr 05, 2009 6:24 pm
Forum: Questions & Answers about Tree Planting
Topic: Planting in Australia
Replies: 102
Views: 85587

Re: Planting in Australia

We need to hear about other companies in Australia, and from planters who have worked for them.
by vacationer
Sun Apr 05, 2009 6:21 pm
Forum: Around The Campfire
Topic: Stephen Harper just gave me 2000$
Replies: 60
Views: 19475

Re: Stephen Harper just gave me 2000$

It that only for claims that are for the maximum number of weeks? That's the impression I got from the letter I received.
by vacationer
Sat Apr 04, 2009 4:38 pm
Forum: These Boots Were Made For Walkin'
Topic: footwear
Replies: 28
Views: 13402

Re: footwear

You don't actually "need" much of anything apart from a tent, a sleeping bag and planting gear. Everything else is subject to experimentation. On flat land many people plant in gumboots or running shoes.
by vacationer
Wed Apr 01, 2009 5:57 pm
Forum: Questions & Answers about Tree Planting
Topic: Dogs - Love them or hate them, I have some questions.
Replies: 7
Views: 4182

Re: Dogs - Love them or hate them, I have some questions.

Any dog owner will regale people with stories of how great their dog is -- foremen looking for planters will not trust these assurances. All I mind about dogs is the space they take up in the truck.
by vacationer
Wed Apr 01, 2009 10:04 am
Forum: Health, Safety & Training Information
Topic: Gloves- new guide for use- your input is valuable
Replies: 20
Views: 10546

Re: Gloves- new guide for use- your input is valuable

"I do NOT advocate the position that risks are relative and you should forget about one risk (say fertilizer) because other risks are more likely to kill you (say driving)." Really? So when was the last time you worried about ice falling from airplanes? "I prefer sticking to the princ...
by vacationer
Mon Mar 30, 2009 2:25 pm
Forum: Around The Campfire
Topic: What are you worth as a planter?
Replies: 16
Views: 5594

Re: What are you worth as a planter?

I mainly chafe at any suggestion that there are absolute rules of human conduct which are applied to everyone equally. Despite what I've said for argument's sake, I'd probably fire someone who kept after a certain girl to an extent that bothered a lot of people, but I'd admit it was because they wer...
by vacationer
Mon Mar 30, 2009 12:24 pm
Forum: Around The Campfire
Topic: What are you worth as a planter?
Replies: 16
Views: 5594

Re: What are you worth as a planter?

"There is no rule or interpretation that I have heard that says you can't hit on someone. However, if it is unwanted and repeated attempts, that is harassment, period, fire the fucker" The rule you have just stipulated DOES say that you can't hit on someone, at least in a certain way. If s...
by vacationer
Mon Mar 30, 2009 9:48 am
Forum: Around The Campfire
Topic: What are you worth as a planter?
Replies: 16
Views: 5594

Re: What are you worth as a planter?

" ...how much sexual misconduct occurs in camp life?" Well, how much sexual misconduct occurs anywhere? Life is unpleasant sometimes. Often the difference between someone hitting on you and the same person harrassing you is whether you're attracted to them. You have to risk looking like an...
by vacationer
Sun Mar 29, 2009 1:07 pm
Forum: Around The Campfire
Topic: What are you worth as a planter?
Replies: 16
Views: 5594

Re: What are you worth as a planter?

"What are we around purely for you're gratification?" Chick was probably the wrong choice of word, but the fact that I don't want to plant in camps where there aren't any women doesn't mean I view them as objects with which to "gratify" myself. Would you want to spend three month...
by vacationer
Fri Mar 27, 2009 9:24 pm
Forum: Questions & Answers about Tree Planting
Topic: New Company
Replies: 8
Views: 3675

Re: New Company

Well, then you'd have a bunch of blocks, and you'd probably have to hire more planters to get to them because the mill would want them planted in a timely fashion with the same stock, and you'd have a company a lot like any other. The mills know from experience that the strategy you have suggested u...
by vacationer
Fri Mar 27, 2009 2:33 pm
Forum: Questions & Answers about Tree Planting
Topic: New Company
Replies: 8
Views: 3675

Re: New Company

Trees planted in August on a given block would survive much differently than trees planted in late April on the same block, and would have to be of a different stock. Foresters are very, very reluctant to allow contracters to intentionally stretch out contracts.
by vacationer
Mon Mar 23, 2009 3:08 pm
Forum: Questions & Answers about Tree Planting
Topic: Which Company?
Replies: 26
Views: 13870

Re: Which Company?

"... I think planting in BC with apex would be the better option ; in BC I will have a better opportunity to make contacts and references ..."

You won't get any contacts at Apex -- most planters there haven't worked anywhere else. Get out of there after one season.
by vacationer
Sat Mar 21, 2009 11:36 am
Forum: Questions & Answers about Tree Planting
Topic: Which Company?
Replies: 26
Views: 13870

Re: Which Company?

And as for struggling to make a hundred bucks, this will be true for a while. But planting a longer season adds more days toward the end of the learning curve rather than the beginning. Learning to plant takes roughly the same amount of time anywhere -- the extra days you work are tacked on to the e...
by vacationer
Sat Mar 21, 2009 11:33 am
Forum: Questions & Answers about Tree Planting
Topic: Which Company?
Replies: 26
Views: 13870

Re: Which Company?

"... riding a dibble in the middle of bc is not going to make you into a planting machine ..."

Neither will planting in Ontario for 6 weeks. It doesn't sound like the guy has much choice other than Apex at this point.
by vacationer
Thu Mar 19, 2009 2:13 pm
Forum: Questions & Answers about Tree Planting
Topic: Which Company?
Replies: 26
Views: 13870

Re: Which Company?

Accumulated knowledge and trial and error. The planting world is less confusing every year you do it. After half a decade or so you'll be able to look a situation up and down, compare it with previous situations, reference it against what you know of the people and companies involved, and make a goo...
by vacationer
Tue Mar 17, 2009 4:26 pm
Forum: Questions & Answers about Tree Planting
Topic: Which Company?
Replies: 26
Views: 13870

Re: Which Company?

"What this is leading to is that Apex in my opinion is reliable. Never late pay, always fair pay, and always lots of work days ... ... On top of this Apex always has brand new trucks and ATV's... I've never had a day in 4 years where I haven't made it to work because of vehicals." I've nev...
by vacationer
Tue Mar 17, 2009 2:34 pm
Forum: Questions & Answers about Tree Planting
Topic: Which Company?
Replies: 26
Views: 13870

Re: Which Company?

Apex planters must plant with dibbles, which as far as I know are used nowhere else other than Quebec. I can't imagine it would be very hard for you to switch to a shovel next year. As for the company, I've never worked for them but they have a poor reputation. They hire a ton of rookies, and then p...
by vacationer
Tue Mar 03, 2009 8:39 pm
Forum: Equipment Used by Planters
Topic: Help with Gear List Please?
Replies: 77
Views: 28646

Re: Help with Gear List Please?

Then use them for mountaineering. Where are you planting? Unless it's on very flat, clean land most of the time, buy blue rubber caulks. If it is, just get cheap hikers. Even used gumboots are fine on clean land.
by vacationer
Tue Mar 03, 2009 5:50 pm
Forum: Equipment Used by Planters
Topic: Help with Gear List Please?
Replies: 77
Views: 28646

Re: Help with Gear List Please?

Don't buy gaiters, they are useless for planting. Buy your tent on craigslist. If you insist on buying a new one buy a Tarn 3. If you do buy a new sleeping bag at Mec, consider a silk liner to go with it -- really comfortable, and they'll pretty much eliminate the need to ever wash to bag, which sav...
by vacationer
Tue Mar 03, 2009 2:58 pm
Forum: Equipment Used by Planters
Topic: Workwizer Money Bagz, WARNING
Replies: 15
Views: 5110

Re: Workwizer Money Bagz, WARNING

Another problem with Workwizer shovels is that little hole in the shaft, which I think might originally have been an attachment point for the now-defunct tape dispenser. Water gets in, koinks and sploinks around while you're planting, and eventually rusts the metal from the inside. My shaft busted a...
by vacationer
Tue Mar 03, 2009 2:50 pm
Forum: Equipment Used by Planters
Topic: Help with Gear List Please?
Replies: 77
Views: 28646

Re: Help with Gear List Please?

Don't bring the quantity of clothes Mike did. Just buy wool slacks and white dress shirts in thrift stores, one batch to start out with and more as the season progresses, you might look like an alcoholic but everyone else will be dressed that way too. One pair of cotton slacks can be cut off for war...
by vacationer
Mon Mar 02, 2009 1:14 pm
Forum: Questions & Answers about Tree Planting
Topic: Planting in Australia
Replies: 102
Views: 85587

Re: Treeplanting around the world!

Usufruct is a very old word, derived from Latin, meaning the legal right to use and derive profit or benefit from property that belongs to another person.
by vacationer
Mon Mar 02, 2009 11:14 am
Forum: Health, Safety & Training Information
Topic: Anyone Want Premature Wrinkles?... No? Better Read This : )
Replies: 38
Views: 17584

Re: Anyone Want Premature Wrinkles?... No? Better Read This : )

The guy comes on a planting message board, goes on and on (using several emoticons) about how terrified he is of wrinkles, describes how to avoid them and THEN discloses he's going to spend al his money on a cosmetic procedure to get rid of his? I have nothing against him, but he was going to get tr...
by vacationer
Mon Mar 02, 2009 10:40 am
Forum: Health, Safety & Training Information
Topic: Anyone Want Premature Wrinkles?... No? Better Read This : )
Replies: 38
Views: 17584

Re: Anyone Want Premature Wrinkles?... No? Better Read This : )

Wow. I'm not a redneck, but even if I was, I don't think calling you gay would even cut it at this point.
by vacationer
Sun Mar 01, 2009 12:08 pm
Forum: Equipment Used by Planters
Topic: Best Bug Dope
Replies: 9
Views: 3891

Re: Best Bug Dope

Raid isn't an insect repellent, it's insecticide. Don't put it on your clothes. I find deet to be completely effective regardless of how bad the bugs are -- it stands to reason that if 100 out of 100 blackflies are repelled in mild conditions, then 1000 out of 1000 blackflies are likely to be repell...
by vacationer
Sat Feb 28, 2009 7:43 pm
Forum: Around The Campfire
Topic: Funding for "forest workers" doesnt include us!!
Replies: 57
Views: 18503

Re: Funding for "forest workers" doesnt include us!!

Exactly -- if some government program is a big part of your life plans, you're probably just looking for something to do or are enticed by the prospect of getting something for free that supposedly has value. In this case a lot of people who are pissed off don't even want the program -- if they did,...
by vacationer
Fri Feb 27, 2009 2:49 pm
Forum: Around The Campfire
Topic: Funding for "forest workers" doesnt include us!!
Replies: 57
Views: 18503

Re: Funding for "forest workers" doesnt include us!!

EI caseworkers say that anyone applying for retraining funding should account for expenditures and their own contributions in such a way that they ask EI to pay for about 80 percent of everything. Ask for any more and they'll usually ask you to resubmit. The other 20 percent is supposed to come from...
by vacationer
Fri Feb 27, 2009 12:35 pm
Forum: Around The Campfire
Topic: Funding for "forest workers" doesnt include us!!
Replies: 57
Views: 18503

Re: Funding for "forest workers" doesnt include us!!

This funding isn't intended to help forestry workers live groovier lives -- it's intended to keep forestry-dependent towns from collapsing. Most planters don't live in these places, and most other forestry workers do. The money simply isn't intended for planters. Anyone involved in the creation of t...
by vacationer
Sun Feb 22, 2009 5:28 pm
Forum: Around The Campfire
Topic: Best Rookie Questions
Replies: 155
Views: 97241

Re: Best Rookie Questions

This:

"... aside from the idea that it might be hypothetically impossible ..."
by vacationer
Sun Feb 22, 2009 12:28 pm
Forum: Around The Campfire
Topic: Best Rookie Questions
Replies: 155
Views: 97241

Re: Best Rookie Questions

I'm afraid you'll be very lucky to cram any planting days into that period this season. And, assuming you do get a job, the best approach to your first season is to have no expectations whatsoever. Show up, keep your mouth shut and try to learn by imitation and osmosis. Ask sensible questions if you...
by vacationer
Sat Feb 21, 2009 10:08 am
Forum: Around The Campfire
Topic: Best Rookie Questions
Replies: 155
Views: 97241

Re: Best Rookie Questions

That's spring on the coast, spring-summer in the interior, and fall on the coast, most likely spread between two or more companies, beginning in late february/early March and ending around the first few days of October, with most or all of August off. But you won't need to know any of this for a few...
by vacationer
Sat Feb 07, 2009 12:07 am
Forum: Around The Campfire
Topic: Funding for "forest workers" doesnt include us!!
Replies: 57
Views: 18503

Re: Funding for "forest workers" doesnt include us!!

The other Sunday I saw a World Vision commercial that showed a planter couple fanning the flies off their dying child while scraping the last bits of dust out of an empty maize bowl. It really hit home becaue I worked with them a couple of years ago in Grande Prarie.
by vacationer
Thu Jan 01, 2009 4:44 pm
Forum: Questions & Answers about Tree Planting
Topic: where not to work!
Replies: 103
Views: 58243

Re: where not to work!

He has at least some sense of humor calling himself blackfly. Ontario planters should have their tounges removed and returned to them only when they've planted a few years in BC.
by vacationer
Mon Nov 03, 2008 5:36 pm
Forum: Questions & Answers about Tree Planting
Topic: treeplanting... in Haiti
Replies: 29
Views: 13756

Re: treeplanting... in Haiti

Give this a try -- 1. Go somewhere full of hungry, desperate people who have no reasonable hope of feeding themselves by exchanging their labor for money or food. 2. Carry, store or use a lot of stuff that these people might imagine they can exchange for money or food. Or, just carry around money or...
by vacationer
Mon Oct 27, 2008 10:19 pm
Forum: Questions & Answers about Tree Planting
Topic: treeplanting... in Haiti
Replies: 29
Views: 13756

Re: treeplanting... in Haiti

I meant it, and it's supported by observation -- countries with a lot of hunger are rife with crime committed by hungry, desperate people, and it tends to interfere with any efforts to accomplish long-term goals. If you were in their position you'd do the same. I think it's legitimate to wonder whet...
by vacationer
Mon Oct 27, 2008 6:23 pm
Forum: Questions & Answers about Tree Planting
Topic: treeplanting... in Haiti
Replies: 29
Views: 13756

Re: treeplanting... in Haiti

Okay, well then can a bunch of people just wander around with expensive equipment in Haiti without being jacked, whether it's a business or not? Hungry people are really dangerous.
by vacationer
Mon Oct 27, 2008 6:19 pm
Forum: Around The Campfire
Topic: What are you worth as a planter?
Replies: 16
Views: 5594

Re: What are you worth as a planter?

How much money you're worth in the bush obviously depends on how good you are, so the implicit suggestion here that EVERYONE might be worth a certain amount or The Man can plant his own trees is out of place. I'm worth 300-350 dollars, good food, good everything else unless there happens to be a rea...
by vacationer
Sun Oct 26, 2008 11:27 am
Forum: Questions & Answers about Tree Planting
Topic: treeplanting... in Haiti
Replies: 29
Views: 13756

Re: treeplanting... in Haiti

Is it even possible to start a business venture in Haiti with any expectation of safety/stability? There isn't much of a government there as far as I know. Planting trees might be the least of anyone's concerns at the moment. Does anyone reading this know anything about the situation in Haiti?
by vacationer
Mon Oct 20, 2008 5:18 pm
Forum: Around The Campfire
Topic: Planting dogs
Replies: 30
Views: 9506

Re: Planting dogs

What have we wrought?
by vacationer
Sun Oct 19, 2008 1:24 pm
Forum: Around The Campfire
Topic: Planting dogs
Replies: 30
Views: 9506

Re: Planting dogs

"A good dog makes their deposits where and when the dog-owner directs." Is that why your dog shit in your living room? Dogs take general cues from their owners, but not specific ones. I grind my teeth flat every time I see someone try to discipline their dog for barking, or whining too lou...
by vacationer
Wed Sep 24, 2008 8:51 pm
Forum: Companies in the Silviculture Industry
Topic: what happened to brian adam's contracting?
Replies: 104
Views: 36426

Re: what happened to brian adam's contracting?

Adam is a cokehead. Is it slander? Sure, but everyone who has ever worked with him knows it. Including Brian.
by vacationer
Wed Sep 24, 2008 8:48 pm
Forum: Questions & Answers about Tree Planting
Topic: planting is d0med
Replies: 17
Views: 8025

Re: planting is d0med

Rookies don't plant 100 million trees a year, and ven if they did, fewer trees would still mean a surplus of labor and lower prices.
by vacationer
Tue Aug 12, 2008 7:21 pm
Forum: Questions & Answers about Tree Planting
Topic: Alberta Labour Laws - Employment Standards
Replies: 3
Views: 4286

Re: Alberta Labour Laws - Employment Standards

On the subject of BC labor laws: Since soon after the Liberals were elected, when you want to report something illegal your employer has done to you or your paycheck in BC, no government employee immediately acts on your behalf. Nope, you're given a "self-help kit" -- basically, you're sup...
by vacationer
Thu May 08, 2008 9:32 am
Forum: Around The Campfire
Topic: Future oil crisis
Replies: 98
Views: 44548

Re: Future oil crisis

True, but are you particularly attached to things the way they are? We'll grow food closer to where it's consumed, stop filling our garages with stuff we never use, and cut down on meat. I don't know -- humans, albeit fewer of them, lived quite comfortably on way, way less energy as recently as the ...
by vacationer
Sat May 03, 2008 9:01 am
Forum: Around The Campfire
Topic: FIGHTS/STOLEN
Replies: 33
Views: 12969

Re: FIGHTS/STOLEN

donkeyrider wrote:For general info our entire crew at the time was rooks.
Ahhh. I see.
by vacationer
Fri May 02, 2008 3:51 pm
Forum: Around The Campfire
Topic: FIGHTS/STOLEN
Replies: 33
Views: 12969

Re: FIGHTS/STOLEN

I agree. I would never take shit like that off another planter.
by vacationer
Wed Apr 30, 2008 8:21 am
Forum: These Boots Were Made For Walkin'
Topic: viberg...yay or nay?
Replies: 19
Views: 10794

Re: viberg...yay or nay?

I like my Vibergs. After about 40 days they're in pretty good shape, I can see they'll last a lot longer than anything made of rubber. They hurt a lot at first but don't seem to anymore. They ARE very heavy, and I would not recommend them to anyone working on ground worth less than 20 cents. And no ...
by vacationer
Sun Apr 27, 2008 3:29 pm
Forum: Around The Campfire
Topic: To plant or not to plant
Replies: 17
Views: 5781

Re: To plant or not to plant

Alberta is still nine cents and up -- prices in BC, however, have improved somewhat. I think the number of olympic athlete-style flat land highballers who still find they can make more money in Alberta than on steeper land in BC is dropping. There are a ton of rookies there these days, even more tha...