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Kudos to Mr. Wagner for being able to pay a high percentage of his low bid to planters. This is admirable and I agree that it is a far better thing he does than is done by some other contractors. I know that he has a very experienced and highly productive workforce which like Bivouac allows for a co...

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Hey mister middleage mayhem you sound like a very loyal employee. Perhaps you've bought into the company line. If this wasn't direct award work then your wonderful contractor is the one who bid so low he can only pay 14.8 cents. Have you seen the bids from other contractors? Sounds like yours is lea...

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It is a sad day indeed. As Crosby is my witness it's been a long time since trees went that cheap on our coast. Bough your heads brothers and sisters and let os prey.

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I just looked Khaira up on the BC Forest Safety Council website. They are certified as a small company. This means that they can only operate with less than 20 employees. To be certified as a large compny, which most planting contractors are, it is way more expensive and requires auditors every year...

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You'll be lucky to get 18 cents for a coastal tree on southern Vancouver Island this year. 15-16 is more likely for a 412 or even a 415D. Bid prices have dropped to under 30 cents most everywhere and with the help of Wagner Contracting have actually dipped under 26 cents in the Campbell River area. ...

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Yes once again it's all about the suits covering their asses at minimal cost to themselves. The main reason for insisting on hard hats is so that the administrators don't get caught with their pants down when they get audited by WCB. They need to appear to be doing the right thing. It's not about do...

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The name change is because Denis Graham sold out. He was one of the original founders of Greenpeaks and he's retired. His partner George Hayhurst likely kept the name and is operating under Greenpeaks in the Nelson-Trail area. Denis' supervisor and foreman now operate the new company which works out...

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There is a big reduction in planting volume on the B.C. coast. I'm not sure what the numbers are but it has caused prices to take a tumble on anything that isn't direct award. On the east coast of the Island in particular planter prices have tumbled more than 25% in the last few years. Still the peo...

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Forsite is probably the least organized of the contractors providing FFT planting projects. They're learning as they go but it's costing more than perhaps it should. Hard to say these days as bids aren't necessarily that logical. Need supercedes all else. Forsite's viewing packages are on the low en...

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For contrast to the prep and easy interior land you guys are talking about there's west coast slash. Some use a little flagging and some use a lot. Different strokes. In a way though it is likely the same principle that governs how much flagging gets used wherever you ply the trade. The more you foc...

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They also work out of the Kootenay Lake area running local crews doing a spectrum of silviculture work. They're in tight with smaller mills in that area. If you don't live in the Boundary or West Kootenay area chances are they wouldn't need to hire you. Good solid outfit with lots of experience.

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Rumors are that Hawkeye is scaling down. I know they're working in the Fraser Valley and around Cowichan Lake.

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You're a vet when you know down to the bundle how many trees it'll take to finish your piece tomorrow. You're a vet when you're shoes are as sharp as they need to be.
You're a vet when you keep track of numbers better than the company does.
You're a vet when you never run out of........

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4-baggers are used by some planters who do multiple species planting, especially on the coast and in the West Kootenays. They really help when you're mixing three species and up. That fourth bag also comes in handy for carrying raingear and on the coast the hard hat you really ought to be wearing......

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I always used to get paid at the end of the season and just took enough advances to get me through. Getting that big cheque at the end of the season was blissful. I now get paid every two weeks by direct deposit. I have no choice, my contractor doesn't even issue cheques. I know that a lot of the ve...

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Any company that hopes to pay every two weeks has to carry a fairly substantial line of credit. Even the ones who are solid and well capitalized need some credit to deal with the peak season which does generate large payrolls before their clients pay. BCTS generally pays within 30-60 days, Private c...

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In B.C. there are lots of regulations and extra safety requirements that make using 12 passneger vans a pain in the patooty. A special class 4 license is required to operate them amd they have to be safety inspected every 6 months. This is for good reason. we've had some pretty horrific crashes and ...

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Jordan is right. Wildhorse is very much alive. I haven't seen any of the companies on your list above on any bid results for 2010. You can also remove SOS from your list as Bob M. hung it up recently.

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Myself and a friend of mine worked for Windfirm last summer... until we couldn't take it anymore. I've worked for many companies across BC, and I can safely say that Windfirm was a nightmare. The planters were awesome people, and I made a few good buddies while there, but: 2. I still haven't been f...

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Warning – Avoid this Contract!! As I’ve said in previous posts, it is the planters who must control low bidding by refusing to work for contractors who bid too low. Here is a prime example. It doesn’t get any more ridiculous than the price Khaira will be doing the BCTS Sunshine Coast contract for. T...

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Kevin's wife had all of Mountain's equipment up for sale this summer. I haven't heard of them bidding anywhere.

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Fortunately very few foresters I've encountered are so narrow in their perspective that they begrudge planters making more per day than they do. They understand how demanding the work is and what a short season planters have. Unfortunately it is increasingly the accountants who dictate to the forest...

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The fatality Korno referred to with the bear attack near Mackenzie was up Williston Lake a good 20+ years ago. Another Brinkman crew. Jabez, the supervisor that was killed last winter in the boating accident told me the story. He and Gordy Cunningham were searching for a new camp site, had parked th...

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Hey Hamsterlips, you’ve missed the point completely. I’ve sat in the back seat of far too many crummies next to too many guys like you who have little to offer except self righteous negativity or sarcasm. How better to learn how to make safety happen than to review experiences from the past and see ...

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This has become an interesting and diverse thread. Not what Jordan had intended for sure. But then Jordan is very attached to the safety bureaucracy – the hand that feeds so to speak. This is the unfortunate thing about SAFE companies. WSBC has given birth to a new and voracious safety baby called S...

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Contractors can't deduct money from your payment unless you authorize it. By signing a TD1 you authorize them to deduct CPP, EI and tax. If you buy a set of bags and you don't sign for it you can dispute it if you are charged - and you will win. You can not be fined for the quality of your work. You...

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Wow that is really sad. I actually thought the company I worked for was going to do the same to us. I ddint get my check until almost 2 monts after the season was over, Well steel8909, did you make a complaint to Labor Relations? If you didn't, you are part of the problem. There are good contractor...

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Barnbill, thanks for the Khaira ad. I know they actually do some of the contracts they get. I know that Dewan subcontracts regularly. I have friends who have been burned badly by being involved in that. I've tarred them all with the same brush. I have little sympathy for suits who never set foot on ...

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Khaira is one of those companies run by some suit who sits in an office in Vancouver or Calgary and fires in bids without having a clue. For them it's like a lottery. If by some chance they score and are low by a hair, they have a commodity that they will then try to subcontract to some unsuspecting...

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The example of the direct award contractor reducing their prices by 18% and not reducing the planter prices only goes to show that some contractors are gouging their clients - all the more power to them. Unless a contract has serious logistical costs like helicopters, boats or expensive accommodatio...

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Results for PL10TCC062 - BCTS Sunshine Coast - includes 118,780 trees & 36,200 cones - also includes heli and boat work and expensive logistics Khaira - $90,970.60 Rainforest - $128,927.00 Stephan - $135,618.20 Brinkman - $148,150.44 Timberline - $151,104.48 Fieldstone - $154,663.40 Evergreen - ...

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Here's another one I've seen that's kinda scary - BCTS-Vernon - This contract is close to Lumby and is for 385,000 trees; Tender results for PL11TKJ003 Coast Range - $89,995.90 - 23.3 cents!! Blue Collar - 94,987.50 AKD - 97,636.00 Timberline - 102,157.50 - 26.5 cents Rhino - 104,942.37 Celtic - 110...

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Check out these results from more Summer FFT work up around McKenzie tendered by IFS; Contract 01 is for 352,620 trees and the winning bid is 17.57 cents Contract 2 is for 813,944 trees and the winning bid is 18.3 cents I suppose this means less than 10 cents to planters......... Apex is accepting b...

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Whenever possible it would make a lot more sense of bid results if people could include the number of trees involved per contract. That would give us all a better yatrdstick to measure the prices against. Having said that, I know that the Forsite FFT bids included lots of sketchy access and contract...

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As far as I know, BCTS didn't fire their forester. He had plans to move on regardless of how the job went, but hey Screefhead perhaps your sources are better than mine. While we're at starting rumors, I've heard a scary one. One of the Bryan Adams partners has started a new planting company based ou...

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Hey Screefhead. Thanks for the feedback even if it is misguided. I keep a close eye on bids across the province - kind of a hobby. From what I see and hear most contractors pay about 50% to planters. This varies according to how many locals are on the crew and of course if there are logistics involv...

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This whole thread is kinda pathetic so I must be there too just for posting - but whatever. Being so concerned about looks is only gonna hurt now or later. Now is the time to let go of that attachment. I've heard all of these reasons why wrinkles lurk for all of us. But really lets face it, the deck...

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Planting in HugeChunkofShit - Uchuclesit - Barclay Sound. Found a partially hollowed out canoe made from a cedar tree. Also saw cedars with boards stripped off them. These scars were 20 feet up in the trees. Either very old or really tall natives.

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Dewan are hit and miss at best. They have the odd good job but are more likely to grab work at low prices and subcontract it to someone desperate enough to take it. I have only heard horror stories about contracts that were subcontracted from Dewan or anyone else. If you hear a job is suncontracted ...

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Wildhorse is a small family run planting/brushing company operating in the Ymir/Nelson/Kaslo area. They have tons of experience and can be trusted to pay what they say and on time. Most of their work is done by locals so you're not likely to get on with them unless you live in the area. They work fr...

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The 2008 contract Bryan Adams got with BCTS Arrow was for 591,940 trees which translates to a bid price of 35.3 cents. In year two-2009 they would have had to keep prices the same for similar ground although they would have been allowed a couple of percentage points for inflation. The other contract...

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The results and who bid on the BCTS Castlegar contract are as follows; 1 Panorama Silviculture Inc. 315,436.00 2 Brian Adam’s Contracting Ltd. 209,158.80 3 Jansma Reforestation Ltd. 248,109.20 4 Celtic Reforestation Services Ltd. 241,860.28 5 Alder Street Holdings Ltd. 209,458.88 6 Evergreen Forest ...

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BCTS Castlegar is the local office that Batlang worked for this spring. Their admin office is the Nelson address. What's fishy about their part in this is that they even let Batlang do the work in the first place. Bryan Adams was the company that got the 3-year contract in 2008. Although other contr...

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Hey Scooter, why did you lock out the Batlang thread? It seemed like people needed info in order to get paid. The forester for BCTS Castlegar was Sean Switzer 250-365-8600 but he's quit and moved to the coast. Phoning that office would still work as someone must have stepped in for Sean. It's more t...

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Talk about a thread grasping at straws! What's this all leading to? No tights is just a bureaucrats knee jerk reaction to an injury. The crat had to fill in a recommendation on his investigation form and for want of a better idea blamed it on the tights. They (Island Timberlands and the other big li...

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Timberwest took Ospreys trees and gave then to another contractor because they didn't show up to do them. From what I hear it was a small contract and nowhere near 20% of their work, more like 5%. We had one of their planters come and work with us. He had been making $300/ day working the inlets for...

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Planters aren't the only ones getting screwed by Osprey. Helicopter companies, barge operators and motels just to name a few have been left holding the bag for bills not paid. Osprey owes money all over the coast and yet somehow continues to operate. We've been turned away from motels because we're ...

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